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Old 17th April 2017, 20:09
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It was because he published things GM thought he was saying privately to him in an interview
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Have you read Tony Parsons articles about George ?
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I've found some background on Elton/Geri/Andros falling out
http://forums.denden.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=26996

Andros is on 'one'as usual - think reading between the lines he was jealous of Geri and Kenny relationship with GM - retrospectively he goes easy on Anselmo as he had died so wasn't considered a threat.
Don't forget George was jealous of Andros too. He had a family and kids.
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It was because he published things GM thought he was saying privately to him in an interview
ok I didn't know that. Do you know the details of what exactly ?
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ok I didn't know that. Do you know the details of what exactly ?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...ichael-9519868

Here's a shortened version. To be fair to Parsons, I believe the entire interview was on tape and George was quite experienced enough to be clear that meant on the record unless he asked for it to be turned off. I believe he was very indiscreet about Diana, Princess of Wales - those were the comments that were cut.
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David Austin was straight. As GM himself has described, they met when GM was 6 months old, when David's family moved into the neighbourhood. David was 1 year ahead of GM and Andrew in school. David had a solo career and had a single that was fairly successful "Turn to Gold" and then it all went away. GM introduces him and is on backing vocals here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2svn1LONFs #puregold

David travelled with him and was a huge part of his life. From 2011, I think he was with him on a daily basis. In the Different Story documentary, David speaks a lot and towards the end he smiles and says GM has a nice sense of humour and he can be a nasty man too. I think it was reported once in the late 1980s both of them had some fisticuffs outside a night club as David accused GM of hitting on his girlfriend. I think this is that girlfriend who wrote a tribute when GM died:
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment...4ca1750ed0dbec

GM shared writing credits for songs like "You have been Loved", "December Song" etc with David. I think this was GMs way of making sure his friends benefited. Before singing "You have been Loved" on the Symphonica tour at one concert, GM said David co-wrote that song with me and joked he gives me a fiver whenever I say that GM referred to David a lot during that tour.

Andros and others felt people like David were not tough enough and let GM do anything he wanted and David should have done more to stop him.

These were the really funny tweets that GM tweeted about David when fans asked him on Twitter about their relationship:
@GeorgeMichael Have you guys always been close? Really something special that you have your same friends! You surely must had spazzes?
GMs answer:
David and I met at six months old. Our mums stopped in the street to say hi when they moved in a few doors way
Mum was on her way to the shops, David's mum was on her way back... Both pushing their baby boys down the street....
It was the beginning of a long and totally rubbish Greek/Irish tragedy of a friendship. I'd tell him to feck right off but ....
He's got way too much on me....!
We're like Edna Everage and Madge....if Madge was a blackmailer...lol!

@GeorgeMichael while you were plaiting ur longer tufts & whatever can u tell us what david austin got up to please
Well, David is a dab hand with tweezers and a small comb. Also, he would plait the bits I couldn't reach. If I paid him...

@GeorgeMichael Are you still trying to get back at David bc he had a nicer house when u grew up?
Ooooo! Your opening old wounds now!....anyway , I don't know what he was so cocky about...we had a bigger garage than them....

David I think has directed the last documentary that has been shot for C4. I cant wait to see that documentary.
Omg. That was amazing
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Given this thread is about falling out, I heard an interview yesterday with Tony Parsons - he said they we very close mates but fell out with each other 13 years ago. He didn't say why but implied GM was heavy into drugs.
Selective memory from Parsons. He published the story of anselmo about a year blefore the bathroom incident. George thought it was a private conversationnnIt ended up in the sun or the mirror. But the bathroom incident remains the official outing for whatever reason. Parsons said it was about Diana comments which he never published anyway but George felt betrayed and asked him not to publish more than just Diana stuff. This other poster was right that George should have known better than be on recording. They were friends for many years though so it was another betrayal in George's opinion. George was good to him with splitting the proceeds to Bare And this guy did publish anselmo story in a tabloid. The end he was a reporter first frien after. I would have cut him off too.
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Friendship of tabloid reporter and popstar can be tricky ...
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Selective memory from Parsons. He published the story of anselmo about a year blefore the bathroom incident. George thought it was a private conversationnnIt ended up in the sun or the mirror. But the bathroom incident remains the official outing for whatever reason. Parsons said it was about Diana comments which he never published anyway but George felt betrayed and asked him not to publish more than just Diana stuff. This other poster was right that George should have known better than be on recording. They were friends for many years though so it was another betrayal in George's opinion. George was good to him with splitting the proceeds to Bare And this guy did publish anselmo story in a tabloid. The end he was a reporter first frien after. I would have cut him off too.
GM said he thought he was talking to Parsons for a record company profile and then found it ended up in the Daily Mirror. I would not give Tony Parsons the time of day for all the bitter stuff he has written over the years, especially when GM was fighting for his life in Dec 2011

Tony Parsons has been excommunicated since an interview Michael assumed was for a record company biography turned up in The Mirror. Over three days.
"I'd talked to him as a friend. Even though I was telling the truth, it was degrading in Mirrorspeak. I didn't want to talk about important things in The Daily Mirror. I lost dignity."



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GM said he thought he was talking to Parsons for a record company profile and then found it ended up in the Daily Mirror. I would not give Tony Parsons the time of day for all the bitter stuff he has written over the years, especially when GM was fighting for his life in Dec 2011

Tony Parsons has been excommunicated since an interview Michael assumed was for a record company biography turned up in The Mirror. Over three days.
"I'd talked to him as a friend. Even though I was telling the truth, it was degrading in Mirrorspeak. I didn't want to talk about important things in The Daily Mirror. I lost dignity."



I love George, but this makes no sense. If he knew it was for a 'record company biography' he knew it was for publication, albeit in a different publication. Once something is published anywhere, however obscure, it is liable to be picked up and syndicated elsewhere. And if a journalist has turned a tape recorder on, you know it is for publication not 'talking as a friend'. When you want to go 'off the record' you ask for the tape to be turned off. GM was not a naive media user by this point. I do agree Parsons articles in 2011 were tasteless but I do get the impression he genuinely regretted and was bemused by how George from his perception had changed with addiction over the years.
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Old 17th April 2017, 23:29
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I love George, but this makes no sense. If he knew it was for a 'record company biography' he knew it was for publication, albeit in a different publication. Once something is published anywhere, however obscure, it is liable to be picked up and syndicated elsewhere. And if a journalist has turned a tape recorder on, you know it is for publication not 'talking as a friend'. When you want to go 'off the record' you ask for the tape to be turned off. GM was not a naive media user by this point. I do agree Parsons articles in 2011 were tasteless but I do get the impression he genuinely regretted and was bemused by how George from his perception had changed with addiction over the years.
Even if there was a misunderstanding about where the article was being written and how much was off the record versus on even with a tape recorder they were friends for years prior to this. Certainly he didn't prove himself to be any better of a person afterwards with all the things he wrote about George in following years. I remember one article in particular that was pretty vicious. I can't dig it up right now but it was a public dressing down that's for sure. I don't see why he thought it would have an impact on George in any good way and it came off as self promotion to publish it, as hadn't spoken to George for so many years.
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I thought at some point George had a falling out with Geri as well. I thought something happened where they were no longer friends. Is that correct? I recall when there were tabloid rumours about her doing a reading at his funeral, that people were saying there was no way because they were no longer friends. I know that she spoke highly of him in interviews shortly after his death but I had heard that he had cut her off for some reason. Does anyone know anything about this? I really don't think they had been friends for 5 years at least.
I was skimming the new biography on George by Emily Herbert today and there was a quote in there about Geri & George's falling out. Apparently he thought it was exhausting dealing with her because she courted the press so much.
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Have you read Tony Parsons articles about George ?
Are you referring to the one in GQ? http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article...hael-and-drugs
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Even if there was a misunderstanding about where the article was being written and how much was off the record versus on even with a tape recorder they were friends for years prior to this. Certainly he didn't prove himself to be any better of a person afterwards with all the things he wrote about George in following years. I remember one article in particular that was pretty vicious. I can't dig it up right now but it was a public dressing down that's for sure. I don't see why he thought it would have an impact on George in any good way and it came off as self promotion to publish it, as hadn't spoken to George for so many years.
I agree. Parsons was certainly just interested in his own career. I just do not see how they can remain friends after George asked him not to publish their conversation.

Here is one of the articles in which Parsons mocked GM who was battling life-threatening pneumonia (the article was initially published in Dec 2011). http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...n-i-once-94912
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Are you referring to the one in GQ? http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article...hael-and-drugs
No, I had articles in tabloids on my mind ...
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