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Old 8th January 2017, 21:44
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Yes, let’s judge Fadi - if we must - in a year’s time. That would be much fairer. To judge him now, before we know the full facts, is unjust and unkind.

I beg to differ about Fadi being hunted by the Press - check out the pictures in this Daily Mail article and tell me that he isn’t being hounded. None of the pictures suggests he collaborated.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...r-s-death.html
One thing we definitely agree on is that paps should not be following anyone, ever. I wish there were stronger laws about this. It's stalking. Clarification: I don't see paps as "the press.'
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Yes, let’s judge Fadi - if we must - in a year’s time. That would be much fairer. To judge him now, before we know the full facts, is unjust and unkind.

I beg to differ about Fadi being hunted by the Press - check out the pictures in this Daily Mail article and tell me that he isn’t being hounded. None of the pictures suggests he collaborated.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...r-s-death.html
The parasitic press moved off of George and onto Fadi.

God those pics are sickening.

IF Fadi did nothing wrong, I won't be surprised. If he did something wrong, I won't be surprised.

But until there's some evidence of more than some poor judgment in the wake of an awful situation, he doesn't deserve to be crucified.
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Old 8th January 2017, 21:53
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Fadi has been courting attention, he hasn't been hunted. I have heard more from him than anyone. Interviews, tweets, Instagram... it's been a never-ending "look at me!" fest. .
Seriously, you stand by this? As a journalist you can say hand on heart that Fadi hasn’t been pestered by the Press?

Andrew R has tweeted considerably more. Fadi hasn’t given any formal interviews; he has probably said less than a couple of hundred words in the past fortnight, most probably snatched by reporters on the doorstep as he’s come and gone from the properties. He has posted a few times on Instagram and Twitter; I’d hardly say it’s been a "never-ending 'look at me’ fest’. That’s very unfair.
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The parasitic press moved off of George and onto Fadi.

God those pics are sickening.

IF Fadi did nothing wrong, I won't be surprised. If he did something wrong, I won't be surprised.

But until there's some evidence of more than some poor judgment in the wake of an awful situation, he doesn't deserve to be crucified.
He's not being crucified, he's being questioned because some things don't add up. That is to be expected. If Kenny were there instead, he would be questioned too, though probably differently because the nature of their relationship enjoyed a different public perception.

But yes, I wish he'd used better judgment, and that there hadn't been so many instances of poor judgment over the past 2 weeks. He alone has turned this into a circus. Had he kept quiet and made one or two respectful social media posts, we'd be having a different conversation.
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One thing we definitely agree on is that paps should not be following anyone, ever. I wish there were stronger laws about this. It's stalking. Clarification: I don't see paps as "the press.'
Wake up! They are a fully-fledged part of a modern Press; supplying the Press and paid for by the Press. Unless it’s very different in the U.S... but they are part and parcel of the media here.
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Had he kept quiet and made one or two respectful social media posts, we'd be having a different conversation.
Utter nonsense; he would still have been a key target for the Press and public enemy number one with a certain section of GM’s audience.
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Yes, let’s judge Fadi - if we must - in a year’s time. That would be much fairer. To judge him now, before we know the full facts, is unjust and unkind.

I beg to differ about Fadi being hunted by the Press - check out the pictures in this Daily Mail article and tell me that he isn’t being hounded. None of the pictures suggests he collaborated.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...r-s-death.html
I don't think you understand. George Michael has just died and you are his 'partner' apparantly. You live in his house (the press know where that is) and you decide to walk into Regents Park and take pictures knowing full well everybody is watching and taking pictures and they will end up in the newspapers.

Obviously the press are going to do what they do. That is not hounding. If Fadi does not like it (seems he does) then go somewhere else and then nobody will bother you.
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The link about the bankcard some one asked

https://reportuk.org/2017/01/08/geor...-singers-home/

This is laughable. This quotes from one of lowest-rent, most tabloid newspapers in the UK and has little credibility.
Thats right. Don't like the story then slag of the newspaper as not credible. Make your mind up.
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I have qualified my statements over and over again as purely speculation and opinion, and have said repeatedly that we don't know, we can only guess. I rarely, if ever, even use definitive terms like "I'm sure" or "no doubt." I've been a journalist for well over 30 years, so I'm quite adept at weasel wording.

Fadi has been courting attention, he hasn't been hunted. I have heard more from him than anyone. Interviews, tweets, Instagram... it's been a never-ending "look at me!" fest. I didn't really dislike him before all that. I merely thought of him as a friend with benefits... one of many. I bore him no ill will at all.

But every day he makes himself look worse, and I can't ignore the fact that no one close to George has embraced or defended him. (The only thing that's come close is Andrew saying we don't know enough about their relationship to say.) He claimed his Twitter was hacked, but he still had access to quickly close it. He said he was there the whole time, but then he slept in the car all night (although he had several alternatives). He said he found him "first thing in the morning," but didn't call for help until 1:30 pm. These are "reading between the lines" things that get my reporter's nose itching, but once again I qualify that with saying it's just my own opinion. I'm allowed to have one, as are you.
FINALLY. A sensible post. Thank YOU.
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Old 8th January 2017, 22:01
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I don't think you understand. George Michael has just died and you are his 'partner' apparantly. You live in his house (the press know where that is) and you decide to walk into Regents Park and take pictures knowing full well everybody is watching and taking pictures and they will end up in the newspapers.

Obviously the press are going to do what they do. That is not hounding. If Fadi does not like it (seems he does) then go somewhere else and then nobody will bother you.
I fully understand, thank you.

So you suggest that Fadi should hide away and effectively becomes a recluse? Sounds familiar? We all know how that story ends.
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He claimed his Twitter was hacked, but he still had access to quickly close it. He said he was there the whole time, but then he slept in the car all night (although he had several alternatives). He said he found him "first thing in the morning," but didn't call for help until 1:30 pm. These are "reading between the lines" things that get my reporter's nose itching, but once again I qualify that with saying it's just my own opinion. I'm allowed to have one, as are you.
Does not stack up right ? Add to this that he is a liar (you lie once then you are a liar - period).

It would have been much easier and better just to stay quite. Then I suppose he would not get any attention.
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Seriously, you stand by this? As a journalist you can say hand on heart that Fadi hasn’t been pestered by the Press?

Andrew R has tweeted considerably more. Fadi hasn’t given any formal interviews; he has probably said less than a couple of hundred of words in the past fortnight, most probably snatched by reporters on the doorstep as he’s come and gone from the properties. He has posted a few times on Instagram and Twitter; I’d hardly say it’s been a "never-ending 'look at me’ fest’. That’s very unfair.
Andrew's posts were mainly taking issue with The Sun choosing to honor George's memory with a Wham! song rather than one of his later solo compositions. He was simply asking that the integrity of his musical legacy be preserved, especially as the co-writer of the song they wanted re-released and he deemed inappropriate. As for Fadi's tweets, most of them have been deleted, so yes, now it appears he has been less active than he really was. But that certain series of tweets... I'm sorry. Over the line. I won't even use a qualifier.

Fadi has been hounded by the paps. They're stalkers, it's what they do. The press, had he simply used the phrase "no comment," would have eventually stopped asking. But he has talked and talked and talked. Yes he has given interviews, even to The Sun. He just didn't answer certain questions to their liking (nor should he have, because they were questions only the police had a right to ask, and I'm guessing already did). The one thing I did find incredibly unfair was the backlash when he tweeted a link to an unreleased song, as if it broke some sort of confidence or even law. That song has been out there forever. If perhaps it was his favorite and reminded him the most of George, I can't see what's wrong with him linking to it.
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I thought there was only one driving incident during Kenny (he says they broke up in 2009).

Yes it works both ways. But that doesn't change the nature of things. I'm sure that old guy who married Anna Nicole Smith got something out of it too.

All I'm saying is that I didn't see a lot of happiness in George after Kenny. He just kept going down and down and down. A few smiling pictures with Fadi doesn't change that perception for me. I've had plenty of rebound relationships where I made a special point to "prove" how "happy" I was now. It was all just for show. I've also known women dating celebrities telling me "it's the real thing, I'm his one and only!" and showing off their new jewelry. Meanwhile they were just the latest in a long line of stand-ins for the woman he really loved, who had left him. Being seen smiling with someone on your arm doesn't prove much of anything. Heck, getting engaged or married doesn't seem to mean anything either anymore.

I'm not going to keep pretending he was the love of George's life or more than just FWB. And i've seen and done too much to assume that dating someone on and off for 7 years automatically makes it real. But no one should take the attitude that they're any more "sure" than I am. We are ALL just guessing.
Ok, you're saying basically that George didn't manage to get over his split with Kenny?
If that's what you're saying, I hear you and I agree. George said an awful lot in his songs, didn't he?

Look at the last lines of American Angel...

My American Angel, he doesn't want to fight (doesn't need to fight)
My U.S of Angel, holds me in the dead of night
Takes away that fear that I carried forever
You stopped to wipe away my tears
But you stayed forever amore

And more, didn't you baby

Because I don't think that I could love and lose again
I don't think I have the strength
I don't think I have the strength
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Oh please! Fadi Fawaz knew full well that the paps would be tailing him yet he went to a public park to snap photos anyway. He has managed to be in the papers every damn day. Don't insult my intelligence by saying that was not deliberate.

And now he is back on Twitter or maybe it is the hacker instead.
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I fully understand, thank you.

So you suggest that Fadi should hide away and effectively becomes a recluse? Sounds familiar? We all know how that story ends.
He should do what Andrew Ridgley, Andros, Alex, David Austin etc etc are doing.
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